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Compare KBDFans KBD67 Lite R4 vs Agar Differences Side by Side

This comparison is for buyers deciding between two distinct DIY kits from KBDFans. The KBD67 Lite R4 is a 65% layout kit known for its value and flexibility, while the Agar EC is a premium 60% HHKB layout kit built for a specific switch technology. The decision hinges on your need for dedicated arrow keys, wireless use, material preferences, and whether you want to explore standard MX or electrocapacitive switches.

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KBD67 Lite R4 Kit (ANSI)
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KBDFans Agar - 60% MX and EC Keyboard Kit

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  • Available in a Unknown layout
  • Built with the ANSI, ISO layout standard
  • Offers Normal ergonomics
  • Compatible with both Mac and Windows
  • Supports QMK firmware
  • Supports Wired, Wired only, Bluetooth, Wireless connectivity
  • Made with a ABS case
  • Offers No RGB lighting
  • Available in a 60% layout
  • Built with the ANSI layout standard
  • Offers Split Backspace ergonomics
  • Supports VIAL configuration
  • Uses a Gasket Mount mounting style
  • Supports Bluetooth, Wired, Wireless, Wired only, connectivity
  • Runs at a 1000 Hz polling rate
  • Weighs about 1300 g
  • Sized at 33 x 297 x 123 mm
  • Made with a Polycarbonate, Aluminum case
  • Offers Yes, Rgb RGB lighting
Scores
  • Performance: 49.3
  • Build Quality: 80.6
  • Productivity: 91.6
  • Customizability: 90.3
  • Portability: 52.5
Scores
  • Performance: 64.1
  • Build Quality: 88.4
  • Productivity: 81.4
  • Customizability: 88.7
  • Portability: 84.3
Name
KBDFans KBD67 Lite R4
Name
KBDFans Agar
Release year
2025
Release year
2025
Switch Options
-
Switch Options
-
Profile
Normal Profile
Profile
Normal Profile
Hot Swappable
 
Hot Swappable
 
Layout Size
Unknown
Layout Size
60%
Layout Standard
ANSI, ISO
Layout Standard
ANSI
Layout Ergonomics
Normal
Layout Ergonomics
Split Backspace
Knob Support
 
Knob Support
 
Display Support
 
Display Support
 
Mac/Win Support
 
Mac/Win Support
 
Multi-Media Keys
 
Multi-Media Keys
 
USB-C
 
USB-C
 
USB passthrough
 
USB passthrough
 
Connection
Wired, Wired only, Bluetooth, Wireless
Connection
Bluetooth, Wired, Wireless, Wired only,
Polling Rate
-
Polling Rate
1000 Hz
Battery capacity
-
Battery capacity
-
Hall Effect Support
 
Hall Effect Support
 
QMK Support
 
QMK Support
 
VIA Support
 
VIA Support
 
VIAL Support
 
VIAL Support
 
N-Key Rollover
 
N-Key Rollover
 
Rapid Trigger
 
Rapid Trigger
 
Mount Style
-
Mount Style
Gasket Mount
Screw in Stabilizers
 
Screw in Stabilizers
 
Sound Dampening
 
Sound Dampening
 
Backlight
 
Backlight
 
Rgb
Case Colors
Case Colors
Case Material
ABS
Case Material
Polycarbonate, Aluminum
Keycaps Material
-
Keycaps Material
-
Dimensions
-
Dimensions
33 x 297 x 123 mm
Weight
-
Weight
1300g
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Pros and Trade-offs

Select the KBDFans KBD67 Lite R4 if you need a cost-effective, versatile 65% keyboard with wireless options and a standard layout. Choose the KBDFans Agar EC if you are a programmer or enthusiast seeking a premium HHKB build focused on electrocapacitive switches and are willing to pay more for its materials and specialized design. Your budget and layout allegiance are the deciding factors.

KBDFans KBD67 Lite R4

  • +Offers both ANSI and ISO layout support for greater keycap compatibility.
  • +Includes Bluetooth wireless connectivity in addition to wired USB-C.
  • +Explicitly lists Mac and Windows compatibility.
  • +Comes with foam and damping elements for sound tuning out of the box.
  • +Supports both QMK and VIA firmware for extensive programmability.
  • −Case is made from ABS plastic, which may feel less premium than metal options.
  • −Layout size is not explicitly defined, though it is a 65% form factor.
  • −Lacks any form of RGB lighting.

KBDFans Agar

  • +Available in premium polycarbonate or aluminum case material options.
  • +Features a gasket mount with a silicone block system for a flexible typing feel.
  • +Designed for electrocapacitive (EC) switches, offering a unique typing experience.
  • +Includes a copper external weight and RGB underglow lighting.
  • +Uses a magnetic pin header daughterboard for easier assembly.
  • −Strictly a 60% HHKB layout with no dedicated arrow keys.
  • −Wired-only connectivity with no wireless option.
  • −Substantially more expensive than the KBD67 Lite R4.
  • −PCB is specifically designed for EC switches, limiting compatibility with standard MX switches.

Which Keyboard Is Better for Your Needs?

The KBD67 Lite R4 wins for general office work, gaming, travel, and content creation due to its more versatile 65% layout with arrow keys and wireless option. The Agar EC is the clear choice for programmers who prefer the HHKB layout. For modding, both are excellent platforms with different mounting systems and firmware support, making it a tie. Your primary workflow and layout preference will dictate the winner.

GamingKBDFans KBD67 Lite R4
  • •The 65% layout retains dedicated arrow keys, which are often preferred for gaming.
  • •The KBD67 Lite R4 offers a wireless connectivity option, providing more placement flexibility.
  • •The Agar EC's HHKB layout lacks dedicated arrow keys, which may require layer adjustments.
OfficeKBDFans KBD67 Lite R4
  • •The KBD67 Lite R4 explicitly lists Mac/Win support, which is not mentioned for the Agar EC.
  • •Its 65% layout with arrow keys is more intuitive for general office tasks than a 60% HHKB layout.
  • •The wireless option can reduce cable clutter on a desk.
ProgrammingKBDFans Agar
  • •The Agar EC's vendor description explicitly states its HHKB layout is 'perfect for programmers'.
  • •The HHKB layout places the Control key in a more accessible position, a known preference for coders.
  • •The premium polycarbonate or aluminum case options may offer a more satisfying long-term typing experience.
TravelKBDFans KBD67 Lite R4
  • •The KBD67 Lite R4 offers Bluetooth wireless connectivity, making it more portable.
  • •Its ABS plastic case is likely lighter than the Agar EC's aluminum or polycarbonate and aluminum construction.
  • •The included foam and damping elements in the kit can help with sound during travel.
ModdingTie
  • •Both are hot-swappable barebones kits, allowing easy switch changes.
  • •The KBD67 Lite R4 supports QMK and VIA firmware, while the Agar EC supports VIAL, offering deep programmability.
  • •The Agar EC features a gasket mount with a silicone block system and includes an EC foam kit for sound tuning.
  • •The KBD67 Lite R4 includes foam/damping elements and a polycarbonate plate for modding acoustics.
Content CreationKBDFans KBD67 Lite R4
  • •The 65% layout with dedicated arrow keys is beneficial for timeline scrubbing and precise edits.
  • •Wireless capability offers more ergonomic positioning during long editing sessions.
  • •Support for both ANSI and ISO layouts provides broader keycap compatibility for specialized sets.

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